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A binary relation $R$ on $\mathbb{N} \times \mathbb{N}$ is defined as follows: $(a, b) R(c, d)$ if $a \leq c$ or $b \leq d$. Consider the following propositions:

  • $P:$ $R$ is reflexive.
  • $Q:$ $R$ is transitive.

Which one of the following statements is TRUE?

  1. Both $P$ and $Q$ are true.
  2. $P$ is true and $Q$ is false.
  3. $P$ is false and $Q$ is true.
  4. Both $P$ and $Q$ are false.

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$(B)$ Reflexive, but not transitive.

it is "$a \leq c$ OR $b \leq d$",

NOT
"$a \leq c$ AND $b \leq d$"

$(2,5) R (6, 3), \quad (6,3)R (1, 4),$ but $(2,5) \not R (1, 4)$

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Given relation  (a,b)R(c,d) if a≤c or b≤d is satifies ,

            1.Reflexive property :YES ,bcoz (a,b)R(a,b)

            2.Transitive property :NO  ,counter example  (4,2)R(1,4) and (1,4)R(3,1) but not (4,2)R(3,1).

            3.Symmetric property:NO ,counter eg (1,2)R(3,4) but not (3,4)R(1,2)

Correct ans is,(B) P is true and Q is false.

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It is obvious that it will be it will be reflexive by definition bcz if a relation "<=" then such relation must be reflexive and when we read about the definition about Transititve we found that "A relation "< || > || subset || superset || \" always be transitive so P true and Q is false.

Above is by Theory.

Now in transitive relation it is always given that if a<b,b<c then a<c but there is no such condition is reflecting in above.

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$(a,b)R(a,b)$ is always true , since $a<=a \ and\  b <= b$ is always true , thus the relation is reflexive for sure.

According to the definition of transitivity :-

$If \ (a,b)R(c,d) \ and \ (c,d)R(e,f) \ then (a,b)R(e,f) \ must \ also \ hold \ true.$

Here , the statement is in the form of an implication ,

If A then B.

Thus ,

$(\ (a,b)R(c,d) \ and \ (c,d)R(e,f) )\ => (a,b)R(e,f) $

If the RHS can be proved to be false and LHS can be proved to be true at the same point of time we can surely say that the statement is invalid and thus the relation in not transitive.

Let RHS is false.

Thus , $((a,b),(e,f)) \notin R => a>e \ and \ b>f.$

Let's reverse engineer this .

Let $a = 4 , b=5 ,e=3 \ and \ f=3$.

It can be easily shown that:-

$(4,5)R(3,6) \ holds \ and \ (3,6)R(3,3) \ holds \ but \ (4,5)R(3,3) \ doesn't \ hold. $

Thus we can show that the LHS of the implication is true , and RHS is false at the same point of time , thus the statement is invalid.

Thus , the relation is not following the property of transitivity.
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Some might erroneously conclude that R is transitive using following proof:

Let (a,b)R(c,d) implies a<=c OR b<=d

Let (c,d)R(e,f) implies c<=e OR d<=f

For R to be transitive we have to show (a,b)R(e,f) implies a<=e OR b<=f

Now since we have assumed both (a,b)R(c,d) AND (c,d)R(e,f) 
Therefore (a<=c OR b<=d) AND (c<=e OR d<=f)

=>  (a<=c AND c<=e) OR (a<=c AND d<=f) OR (b<=d AND c<=e) OR (b<=d AND d<=f)

From our assumptions the above expression is True. If any one of the 4 terms above is true, the expression becomes true. Now if 1st term is true, it would mean a<=e which would make our claim to transitivity , true, similarly for 4th term. But 1st/4th term need not be true, even if 2nd/3rd term is true that also makes the expression true, and 2nd/3rd term don’t give us enough proof to claim that R is transitive i.e. counter examples exist to our claim of R being transitive, some of which are mentioned in the above answers. 

NOTE : Even one counterexample is enough to make a claim false, but some might try the proof route and might end up doing what I am doing above.

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(a,b) R (c,d) exists if a<=c or b<=d

 

Reflexive definition: a R a exists if a R a exists (in reverse).

=> (a,b) R (a,b) and (a,b) R (a,b) in reverse both exists => Reflexive

 

Transitive definition: if a R b and b R c exists then a R c also exists.

=> Take an example that could contradict, for example

=> (5,6) R (6,5)

=> (6,5) R (4,5) 

=> then (5,6) R (4,5) must also exist but it doesn't. Not Transitive

 

Ans : B

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